# Against the elements of nature! **URL:** \ **Category:** Image Critiques\ **Tags:** landscape\ **Created:** [April 16, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623 "2019-04-16T14:22:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/1 "2019-04-16T14:22:03Z")
![vroege%20fietsers](https://images.naturephotographers.network/original/2X/a/ad054d44f7d0f30cf837641d2352e84b3fa6972f.jpeg) ### What technical feedback would you like if any? All feedback is welcome ### What artistic feedback would you like if any? All feedback is welcome ### Pertinent technical details or techniques: Nikon D300, F11, iso 200, 1/250, (If this is a composite, etc. please be honest with your techniques to help others learn) ###### If you would like your image to be eligible for a feature on the NPN Instagram (@NaturePhotoNet), add the tag ‘ig’ and leave your Instagram username below. ##### **_You may only download this image to demonstrate post-processing techniques._** ---
**Author:** ![Blake\_Randall](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/blake_randall/32/41534_2.png) [@Blake\_Randall](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Blake_Randall)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/2 "2019-04-16T16:19:39Z")
Great shot Ben, the fog and sunset colors are creating a truly magical atmosphere. I think I would personalty brighten up the shadows a bit to try and get some separation between the bikers and the road and I’m a little torn by having a main focal point such as the sun so close to the edge of the frame. I’m curious what other people think about that. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Douglass](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/dave_douglass/32/5332_2.png) [@Dave\_Douglass](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Dave_Douglass)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/3 "2019-04-16T16:27:36Z")
I really like this shot. What a mood! I’m okay with the mystery of the details of the bikers and the road and part of me wonders, like Blake, if the sun would be better a little less close to the left edge but, as I look at the line of trees, I bet there’s not another tree just to the left for a while so, I would keep; the sun close to the edge like this rather than have a bare tree space on the left. I’m thinking you did the right thing with that left crop. Just me. ---
**Author:** ![Ian\_Wolfenden](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ian_wolfenden/32/350_2.png) [@Ian\_Wolfenden](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ian_Wolfenden)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/4 "2019-04-16T19:44:45Z")
The mood evoked by the mist and the shadowy figures. lit by that fading sun, is truly melancholy ( in the best possible sense !! ). I take the point about the position of the sun made by others, but I think there is a case for saying it makes there a somewhat tentative appearance - almost as an intruder into the darkness. Whatever, it is a very fine image, Ben. ---
**Author:** ![Igor\_Doncov](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/igor_doncov/32/579_2.png) [@Igor\_Doncov](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Igor_Doncov)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/5 "2019-04-16T21:37:20Z")
This image is packed with emotion. A couple of suggestions. The yellow has a green cast to it. I would modify it in HSL to change that tint. In addition I would clone out some of the small branches descending from the top. ---
**Author:** ![Adhika\_Lie](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/adhika_lie/32/15928_2.png) [@Adhika\_Lie](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Adhika_Lie)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/6 "2019-04-17T17:25:07Z")
This is so beautiful, Ben. If there is one word to describe this, it would be cinematic. I agree about the green tint on the yellow on the UL corner. I am thinking of a more panoramic crop from the top. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/7 "2019-04-17T18:13:51Z")
Thank you Blake for this helpful comment. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/8 "2019-04-17T18:15:03Z")
Thank you so much, Dave. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/9 "2019-04-17T18:16:31Z")
Thank you, Ian for your fine comment. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/10 "2019-04-17T18:19:18Z")
Thank you, Igor for your tip about the green cast. A good help also for future images to give such colorcasts more attention. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/11 "2019-04-17T18:23:39Z")
What a wonderful comment you gave me, Adhika.I removed the green tint and it look’t a lot better now. I didn’t see it but now I have learned from you all to pay attention to things like this color cast. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_McGuirk](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ed_mcguirk/32/30542_2.png) [@Ed\_McGuirk](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_McGuirk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/12 "2019-04-18T12:32:45Z")
What a beautiful image Ben, with all the fog it has a very painterly look to it. This image has a lot of impact, the fog and light are just wonderful. I think the composition is very strong, and I especially like how you handled the placement of the sun in this image. I do agree with @Adhika_Lie that a slight crop from the top would place even more emphasis on the riders. I would also suggest dodging the fog area right around the riders, to make them pop out even more. This is a wonderful image, nicely done !!! ---
**Author:** ![Kah-Kit\_Yoong](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/kah-kit_yoong/32/672_2.png) [@Kah-Kit\_Yoong](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Kah-Kit_Yoong)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/13 "2019-04-19T21:52:33Z")
I love the feeling and atmosphere of the overall image. The sun isn’t too close to the edge for me. There seems to be a heavy vignette applied which might be responsible for the strong casts mentioned, green top left and magenta to the right edge. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/14 "2019-04-20T18:47:29Z")
Great comment, Ed. I made this image a few years ago and I am rather proud of it. So I was wondering if it should be liked here on NPN where I learn so much. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/against-the-elements-of-nature/5623/15 "2019-04-20T18:51:15Z")
Thank you , Kah Kit Yoong for your inspiring reaction. On NPN it’s learning all the time for me !