# Battle for the Ledge **URL:** \ **Category:** Image Critiques\ **Tags:** landscape\ **Created:** [May 1, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/battle-for-the-ledge/21527 "2021-05-01T19:22:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mario\_Cornacchione](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/mario_cornacchione/32/26649_2.png) [@Mario\_Cornacchione](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Mario_Cornacchione)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/battle-for-the-ledge/21527/1 "2021-05-01T19:22:44Z")
![Battle for the Ledge](https://images.naturephotographers.network/original/3X/d/5/d573cb4bb231b185e2a8e65e951be364e500a95d.jpeg) This is not a beautiful image to my eye. B/W because this was very early spring and virtually no color. The forces of nature are the point. It appeared to me, in spite of the complexity/chaos, there was a battle going on here . Frequently, as I try to find my way in landscape photography, I am finding it difficult to tame the chaos in nature. I feel I balanced the image with the ledge. ### Specific Feedback Requested Did I succeed in the message by using a wide angle. Is the chaos organized or not? ### Technical Details Is this a composite: No 24mm, F/22, @ 1/60, iso 160 ###### ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Kreyger](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@Alan\_Kreyger](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Alan_Kreyger)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/battle-for-the-ledge/21527/2 "2021-05-01T20:47:14Z")
Mario, I find these are tough scenes to make work, but I think you did a nice good job of it and it does tell a Interesting story as well. To me it conveys a sense of how precariously the trees cling to the ledge. The only minor item for me is the smaller white tree coming into the frame on the right is a little distracting. Maybe burning it down a bit would help. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_McGuirk](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ed_mcguirk/32/30542_2.png) [@Ed\_McGuirk](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_McGuirk)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/battle-for-the-ledge/21527/3 "2021-05-02T14:40:52Z")
Kudo’s to you for trying something different, this is a very unusual perspective , kind of like an ants eye view. Definitely an image destined for B&W. I like parts of this image, the two leaning trees almost look like they are doing battle with each other. I like the rock cliffs as a base and anchor to the image, except for the dark shadow in the center rock, it has a lot of visual weight, but doesn’t add much to the story for me. Maybe try dodging it or reducing contrast in that spot. I also find the bright white branches halfway down the left edge to be a minor distraction, maybe burn down the highlights there. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Lowe](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@Ed\_Lowe](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_Lowe)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/battle-for-the-ledge/21527/4 "2021-05-02T18:19:05Z")
This is a most unusual scene, Mario. The POV works well for me as well as the conversion to B&W. If this were mine I would clone out the bright limbs coming in from the left side as well as trying to bring up the shadows a little on the rocks. I would also try to burn down the tree in the URC as it catches my eye a little. I think this is worth tweaking a little as you did capture the “forces of nature” IMO. ---
**Author:** ![paul\_g\_wiegman](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/paul_g_wiegman/32/30091_2.png) [@paul\_g\_wiegman](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/paul_g_wiegman)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/battle-for-the-ledge/21527/5 "2021-05-03T00:24:25Z")
Very early spring, on a bright sunny day, it is difficult to make good images. I think you captured the feeling of those days well. You **celebrated** the chaos rather than tamed it. The tangle of branches, the hard angular surfaces of the rock ledge, and the beautiful texture of the tree bark are all there. Well done. paul g wiegman ---
**Author:** ![Mario\_Cornacchione](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/mario_cornacchione/32/26649_2.png) [@Mario\_Cornacchione](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Mario_Cornacchione)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/battle-for-the-ledge/21527/6 "2021-05-03T02:23:55Z")
Thank you @Ed_Lowe @paul_g_wiegman @Alan_Kreyger @Ed_McGuirk for your comments/suggestions. I agree with the left branches as well as burning the RUC tree they are somewhat distracting.