# On Deep Background

**URL:** <https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597>\
**Category:** Image Critiques\
**Tags:** landscape\
**Created:** [January 30, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597 "2021-01-30T19:58:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ed\_McGuirk](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ed_mcguirk/32/30542_2.png) [@Ed\_McGuirk](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_McGuirk)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/1 "2021-01-30T19:58:38Z")

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Autumn 2020 photo project, - taken 10/18/20 in Wayland, Massachusetts

Somewhat of a different take on autumn foliage. Here is a tree with no leaves (not sure if it was a dead tree, or if it had just lost all it’s leaves). This bare tree was all by itself about 60 feet away from the edge of a foggy forest. I got somewhat far away from it and used 200mm to compress this tree against the more distant background forest. I liked how this perspective sort of creates an optical illusion that this bare tree is covered in red leaves. Assuming the tree is dead, you could say this view is a remembrance of times past, and the trees former glory during autumn.

### Specific Feedback Requested

any critique or comments are welcome

### Technical Details

Is this a composite: No  
Canon 5D MKIV, Canon 70-200mm f4 lens, at 200 mm, ISO 200, 1/4 sec at f11

 ![Deep Background](https://images.naturephotographers.network/original/3X/4/7/47ff0e409da04ed4cd7f29314172530f0e412b81.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Kerry\_Gordon](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/kerry_gordon/32/5610_2.png) [@Kerry\_Gordon](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Kerry_Gordon)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/2 "2021-01-30T20:07:19Z")

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What a marvellous photograph! I love the way you’ve brought up the clarity in the tree itself and accentuated the tones and textures. And setting it off against the fading mottled and pale red background is wonderful. But the tour de force is the very delicate green and yellow vine winding down the trunk - practically surreal. A prize winner. Love it!

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**Author:** ![Ed\_Lowe](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@Ed\_Lowe](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_Lowe)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/3 "2021-01-30T20:11:15Z")

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This is another lovely image from your Autumn 2020 photo project, Ed! IMO this would not be as powerful of a scene if that tree was still decked out in all it’s autumn glory. This perspective gives us a glimpse of all that luscious red in the BG and makes for a beautiful backdrop. The tree itself is dripping with character with all those graceful curving limbs. Another powerful element is that green climbing vine as it compliments the red leaves in the BG perfectly. I also like the way the tones of the bark compliment the tones in the forest beyond. No suggestions from me.

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**Author:** ![Ed\_McGuirk](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ed_mcguirk/32/30542_2.png) [@Ed\_McGuirk](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_McGuirk)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/4 "2021-01-30T20:21:29Z")

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@Kerry_Gordon @Ed_Lowe thank you for your comments I appreciate hearing your thoughts.

I’m pretty sure this was an already dead tree, and as soon as I saw it I knew that I wanted to try something like this. The forest in the background was on the edge of a foggy pond, but the mist had already started to dissipate near the bare tree itself, which allowed me to play with the sharp/soft contrast. It was just a matter of walking far enough away from the tree to get this telephoto perspective.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Crich](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/bill_crich/32/27403_2.png) [@Bill\_Crich](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Bill_Crich)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/5 "2021-01-30T20:37:12Z")

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Those reds are so deep I couldn’t really tell what I was looking at from the thumbnail. As well as what the others have highlighted you have positioned the dead tree really well in the frame with limbs extending into all of the corners. I don’t think this image would have been nearly as effective if the tree were centered. Really well seen and wonderful execution.

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**Author:** ![Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ben_van_der_sande/32/5511_2.png) [@Ben\_van\_der\_Sande](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ben_van_der_Sande)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/6 "2021-01-30T20:51:49Z")

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Ed,Just beautiful in color and composition.I cannot think of any remark then what Kerry and Ed already have given. Except that your image brings happy feelings.

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**Author:** ![Ola\_Jovall](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Ola\_Jovall](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ola_Jovall)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 8:16am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/7 "2021-01-31T08:16:53Z")

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Ed, your intention worked out very well, this is a gorgeous image. The cut out of the tree and the placement wihtin the frame is perfect. The green/yellow leaves add a lot to the image. I also like the slightly shift in the red colors moving from ULC to LRC. The amount of blur of the red leaves is just right. Sorry, I can give no advise on improvement!

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**Author:** ![Ed\_McGuirk](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ed_mcguirk/32/30542_2.png) [@Ed\_McGuirk](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_McGuirk)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/8 "2021-01-31T13:08:09Z")

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@Bill_Crich @Ben_van_der_Sande @Ola_Jovall thank you for taking time to comment on my image , i appreciate hearing your thoughts.

> [@Ola\_Jovall](#):
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> I also like the slightly shift in the red colors moving from ULC to LRC.

The shift in red was natural. I found this tree just as the fog from a nearby pond was starting to clear away. The forest is at an angle here, and the ULC was further away and still more foggy (and cooler). The LRC corner was closer, less foggy and starting to get some light (warmer). The tree itself was in no fog at all.

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_Murphy](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@Ronald\_Murphy](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ronald_Murphy)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/9 "2021-01-31T14:17:02Z")

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Just perfect. The green against the red. The sharp against the soft.

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**Author:** ![Harley\_Goldman](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/harley_goldman/32/213_2.png) [@Harley\_Goldman](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Harley_Goldman)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/10 "2021-01-31T15:51:47Z")

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Absolutely beautiful image, Ed!!!

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**Author:** ![joaoquintela](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/joaoquintela/32/20552_2.png) [@joaoquintela](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/joaoquintela)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/11 "2021-01-31T18:30:44Z")

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Beautiful image,  
i just love the composition and the subtle light.  
What I like the most is where you place the red background.

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**Author:** ![Igor\_Doncov](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/igor_doncov/32/579_2.png) [@Igor\_Doncov](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Igor_Doncov)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/12 "2021-01-31T20:03:03Z")

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The green vine makes this image for me. I’m actually wondering if a crop off the top might render that vine even more beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Bonnie\_Lampley](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/bonnie_lampley/32/4825_2.png) [@Bonnie\_Lampley](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Bonnie_Lampley)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/13 "2021-01-31T20:36:05Z")

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Wow, perfection! The smaller branches are so graceful against the red. And the vine absolutely makes this.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_McDermott](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/eva_mcdermott/32/240_2.png) [@Eva\_McDermott](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Eva_McDermott)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/14 "2021-01-31T21:53:07Z")

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The first word that came to mid when I opened this is elegant. I agree with Igor. The vine is an important element .

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Kreyger](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@Alan\_Kreyger](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Alan_Kreyger)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/15 "2021-01-31T23:27:15Z")

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Ed,

This is one of my favorite autumn images of yours… ever!! The cool tree against the warm background, just stunning, and as others have mentioned, the vine just takes it over the top! My one suggestion is to find some wall space for this somewhere in your house!

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**Author:** ![brenda\_tharp](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/brenda_tharp/32/62549_2.png) [@brenda\_tharp](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/brenda_tharp)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/16 "2021-02-01T01:33:39Z")

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> [@Ed\_McGuirk](#):
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> …w this perspective sort of creates an optical illusion that this bare tree is covered in red leaves. Assuming the tree is dead, you could say this view is a remembrance of times past, and the trees former glory during autumn.Specific Feedback Requestedany critique or comments are welcomeTechnical DetailsIs this a composite: NoCanon 5D MKIV, Canon 70-200mm f4 lens, at 200 mm, ISO 200, 1/4 sec at f11

I am behind a long list of accolades for this image, but I had to add my voice here! It is a lovely image, Ed, one that is expressive, and the vine adds the gesture that makes it so. You had light fog on your side to mute the background colors so the tree could stand out. All in all a great image and well composed!

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**Author:** ![Han\_Schutten](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/han_schutten/32/72686_2.png) [@Han\_Schutten](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Han_Schutten)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/17 "2021-02-01T16:46:20Z")

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A brilliant image. The shape of the tree stands out perfectly against the O.O.F. red background and the vine seems to be waiting for you to grab your camera.  
Please keep it as it is.

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**Author:** ![John\_Williams](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/john_williams/32/28797_2.png) [@John\_Williams](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/John_Williams)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/18 "2021-02-02T13:37:27Z")

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One of my favorites of the fall images you been posting, and a good lesson for me. I tend to focus on the obvious, and try to get that dramatic color front and center. Using it as a background to a fascinating foreground element flips that formula and is exceptional here. The green is the icing that makes the cake; it adds excellent contrast and just enough interest to put the image over the top. Really well done on this one!

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**Author:** ![Mario\_Cornacchione](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/mario_cornacchione/32/26649_2.png) [@Mario\_Cornacchione](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Mario_Cornacchione)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/19 "2021-02-02T13:55:28Z")

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The vine, the vine makes this divine. What a beautiful image Ed!

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**Author:** ![Ed\_McGuirk](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ed_mcguirk/32/30542_2.png) [@Ed\_McGuirk](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_McGuirk)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/on-deep-background/19597/20 "2021-02-02T14:02:31Z")

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@John_Williams @Harley_Goldman @Ronald_Murphy @Igor_Doncov @Han_Schutten @brenda_tharp @Alan_Kreyger @Eva_McDermott @Bonnie_Lampley @joaoquintela @Mario_Cornacchione @Ben_van_der_Sande  
thank you all for your comments on this image, I appreciate you taking the time to leave your thoughts.

I was worried that I might have made kept the colors too under-saturated, but nobody commented on that. So I’ll follow the advice offered by Han Schutten.

> [@Han\_Schutten](#):
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> Please keep it as it is.

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