# "The sailing ship" **URL:** \ **Category:** Image Critiques\ **Tags:** landscape\ **Created:** [September 28, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049 "2018-09-28T20:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Andrea\_Celli](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/andrea_celli/32/1721_2.png) [@Andrea\_Celli](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Andrea_Celli)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/1 "2018-09-28T20:44:08Z")
Hi everyone, here I am again with a same problem about cutting and slicing. I need to know your opinion on this shot that I made few weeks ago in Tuscany during an intense foggy morning. Which of the two favorite pictures? The detailed one or the other one with a bigger wide view? Thanks. Andre **wide** ![sailing-ship-V](https://images.naturephotographers.network/original/2X/4/4ce66da7f3248e7f0ddf7467c4cb917f51550da6.jpeg) **cropped** ![embrace](https://images.naturephotographers.network/original/2X/5/51347b4d475529e4fc957a391d7c1a046a91a71a.jpeg) ### What technical feedback would you like if any? cutting image ### What artistic feedback would you like if any? ### Any pertinent technical details: single shot with tele lens 70/200 Sony f4 G oss on Sony a7RII ---
**Author:** ![Ian\_Cameron](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ian_cameron/32/583_2.png) [@Ian\_Cameron](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ian_Cameron)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/2 "2018-09-28T22:14:12Z")
I prefer the Wide view it puts the buildings in context with its environment and the nature of valley mist. I like both though. ---
**Author:** ![Neale\_Dyster](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8dc957/32.png) [@Neale\_Dyster](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Neale_Dyster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/3 "2018-09-29T00:42:38Z")
I much prefer the un-cropped version with horizon and cloud. ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_Katz](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/jason_katz/32/1923_2.png) [@Jason\_Katz](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Jason_Katz)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/4 "2018-09-29T01:26:37Z")
I also prefer the wider view, but for me the buildings disappear a little too much. I think a slightly tighter crop, would still allow for the buildings to be more prominent but still give all the beautiful depth you’ve captured here. Something like this. ![2018-09-28%20(2)](https://images.naturephotographers.network/original/2X/1/14a95a3e8bd4c80a224e512d6c04bef28660c734.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Pelzmann](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_Pelzmann](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Bill_Pelzmann)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/5 "2018-09-29T02:26:31Z")
I think Jason’s crop is the best option. ---
**Author:** ![Phil\_Hodgkins](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/phil_hodgkins/32/3580_2.png) [@Phil\_Hodgkins](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Phil_Hodgkins)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/6 "2018-09-29T02:59:56Z")
Me for the broader image. It fits the visible part of the image much better and gives proper weight to the surrounding fog . ---
**Author:** ![Andrea\_Celli](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/andrea_celli/32/1721_2.png) [@Andrea\_Celli](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Andrea_Celli)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 7:06am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/7 "2018-09-29T07:06:52Z")
This is the best solution for me too @Jason_Katz. Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_Katz](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/jason_katz/32/1923_2.png) [@Jason\_Katz](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Jason_Katz)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/8 "2018-09-29T13:15:16Z")
Cool. I hope it was OK to do the quick crop as an example from a screenshot. Although looking at it again this morning, your original crop is still great. I could go either way. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_McGuirk](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ed_mcguirk/32/30542_2.png) [@Ed\_McGuirk](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ed_McGuirk)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/9 "2018-09-29T14:41:48Z")
Andrea, nice moody image here, I like the way the blue fog is processed, it makes the one light really jump out. In terms of composition, I like Jason’s proposed crop the best, it’s the best of both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![TJ\_Thorne](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/tj_thorne/32/20753_2.png) [@TJ\_Thorne](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/TJ_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/10 "2018-09-29T14:51:25Z")
Nice shot @Andrea_Celli! I agree with @Jason_Katz’s crop! ---
**Author:** ![Kah-Kit\_Yoong](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/kah-kit_yoong/32/672_2.png) [@Kah-Kit\_Yoong](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Kah-Kit_Yoong)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/11 "2018-09-29T15:28:34Z")
Beautiful soft pastel colours. I much prefer the crop too but I find myself wishing for more of the blue sky above and also that theres a bit too much space between the orange band and the Belvedere. I would actually have a go at cloning the top half fo the image down a bit which should be an easy blend. Something like this. Something odd happened to the colours but you get the idea. ![Something](https://community.naturephotographers.network/images/transparent.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aaron\_Feinberg](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/aaron_feinberg/32/10956_2.png) [@Aaron\_Feinberg](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Aaron_Feinberg)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/12 "2018-09-30T04:35:55Z")
I’m going with wider as well. With some more processing this could really shine. I’m seeing slight dehaze and some dodge needed. Very cool scene! aF ---
**Author:** ![Lon\_Overacker](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/lon_overacker/32/10929_2.png) [@Lon\_Overacker](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Lon_Overacker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/13 "2018-09-30T05:24:04Z")
Andrea, Wonderful mood and atmosphere. Between the first two, I prefer the cropped horizontal. Jason’s crop of the vertical is a good compromise. While I like the inclusion of the top and horizon in the vertical, the sides are just too cramped around the mound of building and trees. Although a general rule, verticals to me represent power, strength, etc., where as the horizontal format is better suited for the pastoral, atmospheric, mood, peaceful, etc. for me, fog fits that bill; not too much drama, but plenty of mood. Having said that, the conditions were wonderful and I like how you kept the processing cool and slightly dark to match the time of day. Lon ---
**Author:** ![Ynez\_Slaymaker](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/ynez_slaymaker/32/17466_2.png) [@Ynez\_Slaymaker](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Ynez_Slaymaker)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/14 "2018-10-02T04:50:58Z")
In the wide angle the build was too lost for me. I was going to say I liked the crop better then I saw Jason’s crop. His crop has a nice balance of fog and mystery building. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Ison](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/sam_ison/32/1897_2.png) [@Sam\_Ison](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Sam_Ison)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:19am UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/15 "2018-10-02T06:19:43Z")
Lovely image mate. I prefer the wide version in its original crop. Really nice! Only other thing I’d suggest is some selective warmth here and there to help separate the tones a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Andrea\_Celli](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/andrea_celli/32/1721_2.png) [@Andrea\_Celli](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Andrea_Celli)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/16 "2018-10-03T19:18:11Z")
Thank you everyone guys. Much appreciate . Andre ---
**Author:** ![Harley\_Goldman](https://assets.naturephotographers.network/user_avatar/community.naturephotographers.network/harley_goldman/32/213_2.png) [@Harley\_Goldman](https://community.naturephotographers.network/u/Harley_Goldman)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.naturephotographers.network/t/the-sailing-ship/1049/17 "2018-10-03T19:26:33Z")
Of your two, I prefer the vertical including the clouds. I think Jason’s crop works well, too. It changes the mood a bit, so whichever version resonates with you is the ticket. Nice image!