Heavens And Earth (+revised)

Revised Version

Revision 2 (latest)

What changed: I was not happy with the first revision, the foreground did not look right. I went back to the original post and did some revisions there. Cloned out the left tree. Cloned out the tops of the two smaller lit trees. Added some noise back into the land so that it did not look so plastic. Adjusted the sky so the corners were more even with the rest of the sky. Dodged Nevada Falls, Half Dome, and North Dome and Basket Dome. Cleaned up some blending artifacts in the trees on the right.

Revision 1

What changed: I started over. To brighten the land and retain detail I had to adjust the amount of Denoise in ACR. To eliminate the bright tree on the left I cropped the image differently, so I lost some of the boulders on the bottom edge. I also burned down the other smaller lit trees and slightly burned down the center tree. I also dodged Nevada Falls and Half Dome to give them a little more prominence. I also made some adjustments to the sky around the core of the Milky way to bring out the dust lanes.

Added after receiving feedback from the community.


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Critique Style: In-Depth

The photographer is looking for deeper feedback connected to their intent, creative direction, and specific questions.

Feedback Focus: Artistic + Technical

About This Image

I have been trying to find a way to couple the grandeur of the night sky with that of the land, and I can think of no more a grand land than Yosemite. A few years ago I attempted to couple Half Dome with the core of the Milky Way photographed from North Dome, but I felt that was a marginal success. So I was reflecting on one of the first Astro photos I made when I first started using the D850 and it was the arc of the Milky Way from the Big Sur area. I realized that in late May and Early June the arc is close enough to the horizon that it might be cool to have it arc over Half Dome as seen from the Glacier Point area.

This general composition what I envisioned but found it quite difficult to pull it off due to the large tree in the center. I could not find a location where I could eliminate that tree without getting several more protruding into the sky above the horizon line. Further, By the time the Milky Way was high enough to clear the tree, the gift shop at Glacier Point had automatically turned on security lights and it lit up the center tree and several of the other smaller trees.

Why This Image?

This is a test, for real, I thought that Glacier Point was the optimal place to get the full arc across the sky. I also considered making the photo from Sentinel Dome but I am not sure if the orientation would work from there. I would not have to deal with the artificial lights, but getting all my gear up there is not as simple as it sounds.

What I’m Trying to Express or Explore

So this photo is of course a composite of five individual vertical frames using the 14mm f/2.8 Rokinon lens. I used photo merge in PS to build it. I used ACR to do the initial processing . I was hoping to completely render the image under natural light, and as it turns out the areas that were not in the direct path of the security lights did come through ok. It was those darn security lights that really left me feeling defeated that night. I almost stayed a second night thinking about hiking out the Sentinel Dome with all the gear, but decided not to. Should I attempt the photo from Sentinel Dome?

Where Feedback Would Help Most

So here is where I ask you all for some critical feedback.

  1. Does the artificial light hitting the trees ruin the overall photo?
  2. If the light is a deal breaker, can you think of any way to mitigate it, is there a way to get rid of it? Do you think cloning out the central tree would work?
  3. Aside from the green sky glow, do the rest of the colors look okay?
  4. Does the composition do both the sky and land justice?
  5. Finally, I did use the Denoise feature in ACR (since at ISO 3200 the noise was prevalent), did it render the land OK or was it too strong?

Thank you in advance for any feedback.

Technical Details

Camera: NIKON D850
Lens: 14.0 mm f/2.8
Focal length: 14mm
Shutter speed: 25s
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO: 3200

Camera was on a tripod, with the base of the ball head leveled. ISO 3200 was used for the sky and I was not tracking so I had to limit the exposure time to 25 seconds. I was not sure how to do this while the camera was on my tracker, as to recompose each of the five frames to cover the whole arc, while the tracker was polar aligned, required both a change in the Right Ascension and the declination which I found perplexingly confusing as I fiddled before it was dark. Anyone with any experience in trying to photograph the sky as a mosaic while tracking and how to properly reposition the camera for each necessary frame would be appreciated.

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Firstly, my thoughts after looking at the photo and not your prompts.
The lighting on the center tree and others to the left bring additional interest to the photo. I also like the tree silhouettes on the right hand side. The green airglow is great - it is structured and not blotchy - patchy and I believe all these elements enhance the photo. The illuminated tree on the far left and perhaps the next two little ones, in my opinion, should go, either by cropping or burn it in so they are almost unseen. I also wonder if the dark “stripe” in the milky way arc could be less dusty - by this I mean to remove the smallest stars that make that area look grey/blue instead of black/ blue. Median noise reduction may be appropriate here.

Your prompts.
Does the artificial light hitting the trees ruin the overall photo? **** No.

If the light is a deal breaker, can you think of any way to mitigate it, is there a way to get rid of it? Do you think cloning out the central tree would work? *** I believe the central tree should stay as it is a nice point of interest pointing to the highest area of the Milky Way.

Aside from the green sky glow, do the rest of the colors look okay?**** yes, other than the “grey” I mentioned earlier.

Does the composition do both the sky and land justice?*** Yes, especially Bridal veil waterfall. Just enough detail to make the land interesting without dominating the sky.

Finally, I did use the Denoise feature in ACR (since at ISO 3200 the noise was prevalent), did it render the land OK or was it too strong? **** I did not think it too strong, however other noise filtering methods such as Median before the noise filtering can produce surprising results, especially when combined with more traditional noise filtering methods.

Great Photo, One of the best I have seen of Yosemite. ( I was there in 2000 and stood at the top of Bridal Veil with our little bloke)

Youssef, this is an excellent night photo of Yosemite. Yes, artificial light shows up amazingly strong in such a setting. I too would get rid of the lit tree on the left edge, but the rest of the trees do make a statement about our current reality. I would also like to have the details in the land show just a tiny bit better. There looks to be lots of interesting details there. That central tree does stand out, but it also adds to the sense of being there… The green glow (airglow) in the sky is pretty common in night photos. Something that I’ve done is to apply a strong “S” curve through a brights-2 luminosity mask. That would let the stars to stand out a bit more in the top part of the sky.

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Now, that’s dramatic, Youssef!

Yes, you could bring up the luminosity of the terrain a little so we can see more detail, just don’t make it look contrived. The airglow does not bother me. I like how Nevada Falls and Mount Clark show so nicely adding to the depth. The lit-up trees on the left are eye grabbers.

It’s a fine image of a place I know well. Good job, sir!
-P

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Hi Youssef,
This is a stunning image. I am no expert on night photography or processing for such things as artificial light or the grays in the milky way mentioned above. I agree with the Preston and Mark that it might be beneficial to add a bit more luminosity in the land without making it look fake. I also like the idea of cropping the tiniest bit to remove the tree on the horizon at the left edge.

I also see alternative compositions in this:

  1. A composition of only the left 2/3rds, which emphasizes bridal veil and half dome more
  2. A composition of only the right 2/3rds, without half dome, which emphasizes the tree and the falls more

Of course, there is something to be said for the full arc of the milky way and the full scene, and this is fantastic. However, I like to point out a two-fer or three-fer in a photograph when I see them.

ML

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The original poster added a revised version of their image.

The original poster added a revised version of their image.

The revised version looks great, Youssef!

Nicely done!
-p

The original poster added a revised version of their image.

I will admit to being a pure amateur with the night sky. The third version nails it for me. It brings back some of the foreground rock missing from the first revision and removes some of the green sky which was too strong in the first revision. I actually love that center tree and how Nevada Falls is cradled underneath the branches. I also don’t mind the artificial light on the center tree or any of the other trees for that matter. The Milky way is beautifully rendered and the processing on the revision 2 works well. I would be over the moon with this image, Youssef!!!

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WHAT a fine capture. Fine looking milky way in a uniquely interesting setting. Way to go.

I meant to reply yesterday but didn’t have time to even sit down. (Graduation season should be over after tomorrow…) So I have the luxury of the revisions and think you made a wonderful image even better! The first revision brought out the FG beautifully. I think the central tree is a wonderful element and the lighting is well balanced with the FG. The only flaw is that only the top half is illuminated. (Any way to light paint the bottom to match? Would probably mean layering that image with careful masking.) A minor thing is the way Nevada Falls flares out at the base then is hidden below. Maybe narrow down the flare? I like that you turned off the light on the two trees on the left — there is a hint still in the tree on the right – maybe burn it a bit? The MW is so well done and feels realistically rendered and balanced with the FG, and the airglow is gorgeously rendered. I wonder about dodging the part above the MW just a bit? And maybe making the stars a bit smaller (or dimmer?). When I have used PS to make a MW panorama, I have seen glitches several places. It looks like you avoided them or cleaned them up. I keep meaning to learn PtGUI but haven’t dived in yet.

Overall, a fantastic image from such a well-chosen location!

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Youssef, both revisions look great, with the reduced luminosity of the airglow in rev. 2 fitting the darkness best.

I’m liking the second revision as well, Youssef. When I played with a crop, I cropped from the left and removed more sky than foreground, so I like the version that brings those rocks back in at the bottom. Nicely done.
ML

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Youssef, this one is truly spectacular. I think the revision is an improvement.

Two thoughts. First, I think it needs to be rotated clockwise a few notches. I’d deem the tree in the center and the skinny tree on the far right vertical and align the image accordingly. Second, and I may be all alone on this, I think the distant waterfall next to the tree is distracting. I’d consider selecting it and dimming it down until it becomes much less distinct.

A fine piece of work.

@Don_Peters,

Good catch on the slight rotation, it is subtle but with a 1 deg CW rotation it does look better. Thank you for catching that. I will make that adjustment before printing.

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What a great shot! I think this is absolutely beautiful and I love what you did with revision 2. :slight_smile:

Hi Yousef,
In a word, Wow! This is absolutely gorgeous and each tweak makes an already stellar image even better. This sounds like a lot of work on your part, but the end result is so worth it IMO. For my tastes I think you were able to strike the perfect balance with the light on the landscape and the night sky. The tree in the center looks just fine to me and I am loving the green air glow in the sky. I have no suggestions other than make a big print of this and find some wallspace. Beautifully done!

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This is one to be proud of, Youssef.

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Just an incredible picture. You emphasized the magnificence of the night sky with the central tree. I find this to be an exceptional night picture.

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