Green line caused by a GND filter

Dear filter experts, I need guidance.

Every now and again I get a distinct green line or colour cast in the lower third of my photos. This can (but seldom) happen when I’m shooting wide (say 16-20mm), using my Lee 3 stop grad soft GND (100mm x 150mm) with the shot angled away (say 40-70°) from the rising sun.

Other factors in play are I think dark-ish, dawn shots. A small tilt down of the camera so the horizon is higher in the frame. The GND is pushed up in the holder to align the transition line to the horizon. This said, it appears to me that the green hue or line comes from the clear section of the GND.

Here’s an example from yesterday at dawn, 30 minutes before sunrise (on the RHS).
5Ds + 16-35mm f4 L at 16mm.
10, 25s, ISO 400.

The green line can be seen in line with the bottom of the kayak. This would be maybe 25% up from the bottom of the filter, well into the clear section of it.

From the same shoot I have say 60 images, 3 of which have this line. All are wide, taken at dawn and a similar aspect to the attached. The other say 57 are wide too, use the same filter, have a tilt, angled away L & R from the rising sun or straight into the rising sun. But no green line.

Could the age of the filter be in question? Purchased 2011.

What is going on?

Mark, I can’t say I’ve ever had this show up on any images using ND filters, but the caveat is I shoot only film. Do you recall if this is the extreme bottom edge of the filter. Maybe its a bit of CA - chromatic aberration. It usually shows up on film as magenta, cyan, or greenish. If you use any anti-CA software plugins you might try it to see what happens to the green line. It is very faint and with some work can be cleaned up manually I would think.

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Thanks Paul.

The green band would be maybe 25% up from the bottom of the filter, well into the clear section of it.

I’ll look into CA although I always select CA to be removed in PS when setting lens correction.

A bit more research. This thread is about a 5D mkIV doing the same thing.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4187907?page=3

Perhaps its not the filter at all but a combo of the camera and lens at low light, long exposure and the angle of light entering the lens.

The NPN article on CA suggests closing the aperture (I shoot f11 99% of the time) to increase the DoF. But of course doing this means a longer exposure time so maybe not.

If you rotate the filter does the green line rotate as well?

Good question and I’ll have to try that next time. But…being a gnd for the sky i would not naturally tilt it off level.

That is a bit more complexing. I thought it was the very edge of the filter bottom. I assume you’re not using any chemicals to clean the filter like Windex. But even that straight of a line would have been on the extreme edge of the filter and not 25% up and that perfectly straight.
Shooting digital at least your not getting any scanning artifacts we film shooters see at times.
Let us know if you find out the culprit. Good luck.

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At first I thought the green area followed the curvature of the lens, but on enlargement, it seems to curve up from left to right but then down on the right side toward the water. I also see a vertical line up the far right side upon enlarging the image. If you have access to another GND it might be helpful to take a some shots with it followed by some with the potentially flawed one. Other than that I have no idea what is causing it. Might be time for a new filter.

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More investigation…

For some time now I’ve had an issue where a green band appears in some of my landscapes. After a lot of thinking and investigation I think I have diagnosed the cause but I’d really appreciate it if you would read the following and pick holes in my logic, or agree.

This green band will only appear (but not always) when I’m using my 5Ds as follows:
• EF 16-35mm f4 L @ < 24mm
• Low light…usually sunrise/sunset.
• Lee 1.2ND (4 stop) 100mm resin filter is use.
• Landscape orientation, never portrait.
• Always 33% up from the bottom of the frame.

Consider these two examples from the same recent morning shoot. Note that the time stamp is 2 hours behind as the camera was set at AEST and NZ was 2 hours ahead on that day.

In the image “Lake Moke 489” the line first appears and then features in most shots (< 24mm and landscape orientation)following that. If you look closely there’s actually a 2nd fainter line above the first.

The line does not appear in the image “Lake Moke 488” that was taken 90s before the above, nor any of the preceding shots taken that morning.

I don’t make field notes of when or what filter I have fitted so I surmise that the slower shutter speed in 489 implies that I fitted the 6 stop ND filter in the 90s between these shots. 0.5 to 30 is ~ 5 stops + 1 stop for the exp comp?

The Lee filter is 100mm square and so can be fitted into the holder in any orientation, and back to front which you’d think would make the green band very inconsistent shot to shot, but once fitted I seldom change it for a given shoot.

I think the issue is the 13yo, Lee resin ND filter, not that I can see any physical issues with it. I look after my gear and the filter looks pristine to me. Also, I don’t expect to see a fault with it as there are 8 orientations (4 orientations + flipping it) I could use to fit it on a given shoot.

To my mind the above points to the filter but I’m still not sure.

I have a 3yo Nisi 10 stop and a 14yo Lee 3 stop soft GND. Never an issue.

Thoughts?